[xfbb] New Installation

Tue May 20 00:33:56 CEST 2008

How old is your version of fbb?

I can't recall just which version introduced the change, maybe 7.04o. 
Bernard can tell us because he made the changes.

Ray vk2tv

Bob Scanferla wrote:

>Interesting I compiled everything and it went to the expected places:
>
>/etc/ax25
>/etc/ax25/fbb
>/usr/sbin
>
>etc
>
>/usr/local/etc/    is empty
>
>/usr/local/bin    has some of my crap in it otherwise nothing that I compiled.
>
>??????
>
>Bob
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Ray Wells <vk2tv at exemail.com.au>
>To: List for the LINUX version of FBB <xfbb at f6fbb.org>
>Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 5:42:45 PM
>Subject: Re: [xfbb] New Installation
>
>Hi Jose,
>
>We are both correct.
>
>When you install fbb from a deb package it is installed under /etc/ax25 
>as you say. The ax25 packages and tools are in /usr/sbin (mostly) and 
>the libraries are in /usr/lib.
>
>But, when you compile all of those from sources, they go in 
>/usr/local/etc/ax25, /usr/local/sbin, and /usr/local/lib
>
>I recently quizzed Hamish Moffat as to why the packages still go in the 
>"old" locations and he says it's because packages belong to the 
>distribution, whilst compiled versions belong to the user, hence the 
>/usr/local prefix.
>
>*WARNING!*
>Just a warning at this point for anyone using the fbb deb package (and 
>possibly distros other than Debian as well). If you update your kernel 
>to a version that uses stack protection you will break fbb. Stack 
>protection was introduced around 2.6.18.5. My 2.6.18.3 is ok but I 
>worked on a 2.6.18.6 system recently and it broke fbb. Perhaps 2.6.18.6 
>was the break point given that Jose uses 2.6.18.5.
>
>I first found this problem when Kubuntu 7.04 did a kernel upgrade about 
>a year ago. The system a few days ago was a Ubuntu version update.
>
>The sysptom is that when you go to start fbb it will fail. Near the end 
>of the information on screen you will see a line about stack smashing 
>detected.
>
>Google for stack smashing and you'll find lots of hits. Stack smashing 
>was introduced to close a security loophole from stack overflow in 
>poorly written code.
>
>I don't know how to fix it in a deb package and suspect it needs to go 
>back to the package maintainer.
>
>For those who compile fbb there is a simple solution in the Makefile. 
>Email me offlist for details.
>
>Ray vk2tv
>
>Jose :: EA1AY wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi Ray:
>>
>>I'm use XFBB since fist beta releases. Now here is 7.04j under Debian 
>>4.0 (2.6.18-5-486) and fbb.conf is locate ay /etc/ax25
>>
>>XFBB installed from Debian packages.
>>
>>73 de Jose, EA1AY.
>>
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>>
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>>El 19/05/2008, a las 6:53, Ray Wells escribió:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Jose,
>>>
>>>The correct location for fbb.conf is now /usr/local/etc/ax25.
>>>
>>>I manually moved the sample file there and that solved the problem of no 
>>>config file but it doesn't solve the other problems.
>>>
>>>Regardless, the installation script used to create the necessary files 
>>>but now it doesn't.
>>>
>>>In the past the installation script has said there is no fbb.conf and 
>>>asked if you want to create it with Y/N.
>>>
>>>This is what happened on a fresh installation on a test machine here.
>>>1. I ran /..../fbbsrc/install_sh and it created directories and some 
>>>files.
>>>2. I did cd /usr/local/sbin and ran fbb &
>>>I was asked "Configuration files does not exist. Create them (Y/N) ?"
>>>I was immediately returned to the shell prompt without striking any 
>>>keys. Here is the complete line ....
>>>Configuration files does not exist. Create them (Y/N) 
>>>?tvlinux:/usr/local/sbin#
>>>
>>>This problem is one I have observed over the last year, about the same 
>>>time that stack protection has been in vogue. Is there a connection? Is 
>>>something else failing in the installation script because of stack 
>>>protection in newer kernels? I first noticed the stack protection 
>>>problem when I updated a Kubuntu system to a 2.6.18 <something> kernel. 
>>>The new installation refered to below uses 2.6.18-6. That Kubuntu test 
>>>system had the fbb installation problem with kernel 2.6.18 <greater than 
>>>-3> I don't recall exactly which version. I didn't take too much notice 
>>>when it only happened once.
>>>
>>>The problem only happens with a new system. An upgrade of an existing 
>>>system does not suffer these problems because the files already exist.
>>>
>>>I did a remote UPGRADE on a Ubuntu 8.04 system on Saturday - all went 
>>>fine.
>>>I did a remote NEW installation on a Debian system this morning and it 
>>>failed
>>>
>>>I have seen this problem locally on a test machine with both Kubuntu 
>>>7.04 and Debian 4.0.
>>>
>>>It doesn't particularly worry me, because I've been around xfbb for 10 
>>>years and know how to get around the problem. My concern is for 
>>>newcomers who strike problems and give up.
>>>
>>>Ray vk2tv
>>>
>>>Jose :: EA1AY wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>move fbb.conf to...
>>>>
>>>>/etc/ax25
>>>>
>>>>73 de Jose, EA1AY at ED1ZAC.EAC.ESP.EU <mailto:EA1AY at ED1ZAC.EAC.ESP.EU>
>>>>
>>>>ED1ZAC BBS - DX Cluster - Network Node
>>>>144.975 MHz 1200 bps - 430.500 MHz 9600 bps
>>>>ED1ZAC BBS -> telnet://80.32.9.99:6300
>>>>ED1ZAC-5 DX Cluster -> telnet://80.32.9.99:8000
>>>>Web Cluster http://80.32.9.99/cgi-bin/spider.cgi
>>>>ED1ZAC-8 OpenBCM BBS -> http://80.32.9.99:8080
>>>>
>>>>El 19/05/2008, a las 4:48, Ray Wells escribió:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>>Some time back I advised of a problem with xfbb on a new installation.
>>>>>
>>>>>When /usr/local/sbin/fbb & is run for the first time it offers to  
>>>>>create
>>>>>some files and asks for a Y/N answer. When a Y is given the bash shell
>>>>>says Y is not a bash command.
>>>>>
>>>>>Today I was setting up a new remote installation of fbb and got the  
>>>>>same
>>>>>result. I ran /..../fbbsrc/install_sh and a number of files were
>>>>>created, but only after I manually moved fbb/conf to
>>>>>/usr/local/etc/ax25/fbb.conf before running the script. When I  
>>>>>tried to
>>>>>forward with my bbs from this new system, as soon as I made the first
>>>>>proposal, the remote bbs disconnected.
>>>>>
>>>>>The problem turned out to be that epurmess.ini didn't exist. It wasn't
>>>>>created by the install script, and didn't exist in the source  
>>>>>directories.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ray vk2tv
>>>>>
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