[xfbb] New Installation

Tue May 20 03:01:17 CEST 2008

That's why the old locations. 7.04.p is the latest. You can get it from 
F6BVP - just google on the callsign, or I can email it to you if you like.

Even with that version I still installed to the new locations to marry 
up with the locations of ax25apps and tools.

Ray vk2tv

Bob Scanferla wrote:

>7.04j
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>Bob
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>----- Original Message ----
>From: Ray Wells <vk2tv at exemail.com.au>
>To: List for the LINUX version of FBB <xfbb at f6fbb.org>
>Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 6:33:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [xfbb] New Installation
>
>How old is your version of fbb?
>
>I can't recall just which version introduced the change, maybe 7.04o. 
>Bernard can tell us because he made the changes.
>
>Ray vk2tv
>
>Bob Scanferla wrote:
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>>Interesting I compiled everything and it went to the expected places:
>>
>>/etc/ax25
>>/etc/ax25/fbb
>>/usr/sbin
>>
>>etc
>>
>>/usr/local/etc/    is empty
>>
>>/usr/local/bin    has some of my crap in it otherwise nothing that I compiled.
>>
>>??????
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: Ray Wells <vk2tv at exemail.com.au>
>>To: List for the LINUX version of FBB <xfbb at f6fbb.org>
>>Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 5:42:45 PM
>>Subject: Re: [xfbb] New Installation
>>
>>Hi Jose,
>>
>>We are both correct.
>>
>>When you install fbb from a deb package it is installed under /etc/ax25 
>>as you say. The ax25 packages and tools are in /usr/sbin (mostly) and 
>>the libraries are in /usr/lib.
>>
>>But, when you compile all of those from sources, they go in 
>>/usr/local/etc/ax25, /usr/local/sbin, and /usr/local/lib
>>
>>I recently quizzed Hamish Moffat as to why the packages still go in the 
>>"old" locations and he says it's because packages belong to the 
>>distribution, whilst compiled versions belong to the user, hence the 
>>/usr/local prefix.
>>
>>*WARNING!*
>>Just a warning at this point for anyone using the fbb deb package (and 
>>possibly distros other than Debian as well). If you update your kernel 
>>to a version that uses stack protection you will break fbb. Stack 
>>protection was introduced around 2.6.18.5. My 2.6.18.3 is ok but I 
>>worked on a 2.6.18.6 system recently and it broke fbb. Perhaps 2.6.18.6 
>>was the break point given that Jose uses 2.6.18.5.
>>
>>I first found this problem when Kubuntu 7.04 did a kernel upgrade about 
>>a year ago. The system a few days ago was a Ubuntu version update.
>>
>>The sysptom is that when you go to start fbb it will fail. Near the end 
>>of the information on screen you will see a line about stack smashing 
>>detected.
>>
>>Google for stack smashing and you'll find lots of hits. Stack smashing 
>>was introduced to close a security loophole from stack overflow in 
>>poorly written code.
>>
>>I don't know how to fix it in a deb package and suspect it needs to go 
>>back to the package maintainer.
>>
>>For those who compile fbb there is a simple solution in the Makefile. 
>>Email me offlist for details.
>>
>>Ray vk2tv
>>
>>Jose :: EA1AY wrote:
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>>>Hi Ray:
>>>
>>>I'm use XFBB since fist beta releases. Now here is 7.04j under Debian 
>>>4.0 (2.6.18-5-486) and fbb.conf is locate ay /etc/ax25
>>>
>>>XFBB installed from Debian packages.
>>>
>>>73 de Jose, EA1AY.
>>>
>>>ax25: EA1AY at ED1ZAC.EAC.ESP.EU <mailto:EA1AY at ED1ZAC.EAC.ESP.EU>
>>>
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>>>ED1ZAC-5 DX Cluster -> telnet://80.32.9.99:8000
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>>>ED1ZAC-8 OpenBCM BBS -> http://80.32.9.99:8080
>>>
>>>El 19/05/2008, a las 6:53, Ray Wells escribió:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Jose,
>>>>
>>>>The correct location for fbb.conf is now /usr/local/etc/ax25.
>>>>
>>>>I manually moved the sample file there and that solved the problem of no 
>>>>config file but it doesn't solve the other problems.
>>>>
>>>>Regardless, the installation script used to create the necessary files 
>>>>but now it doesn't.
>>>>
>>>>In the past the installation script has said there is no fbb.conf and 
>>>>asked if you want to create it with Y/N.
>>>>
>>>>This is what happened on a fresh installation on a test machine here.
>>>>1. I ran /..../fbbsrc/install_sh and it created directories and some 
>>>>files.
>>>>2. I did cd /usr/local/sbin and ran fbb &
>>>>I was asked "Configuration files does not exist. Create them (Y/N) ?"
>>>>I was immediately returned to the shell prompt without striking any 
>>>>keys. Here is the complete line ....
>>>>Configuration files does not exist. Create them (Y/N) 
>>>>?tvlinux:/usr/local/sbin#
>>>>
>>>>This problem is one I have observed over the last year, about the same 
>>>>time that stack protection has been in vogue. Is there a connection? Is 
>>>>something else failing in the installation script because of stack 
>>>>protection in newer kernels? I first noticed the stack protection 
>>>>problem when I updated a Kubuntu system to a 2.6.18 <something> kernel. 
>>>>The new installation refered to below uses 2.6.18-6. That Kubuntu test 
>>>>system had the fbb installation problem with kernel 2.6.18 <greater than 
>>>>-3> I don't recall exactly which version. I didn't take too much notice 
>>>>when it only happened once.
>>>>
>>>>The problem only happens with a new system. An upgrade of an existing 
>>>>system does not suffer these problems because the files already exist.
>>>>
>>>>I did a remote UPGRADE on a Ubuntu 8.04 system on Saturday - all went 
>>>>fine.
>>>>I did a remote NEW installation on a Debian system this morning and it 
>>>>failed
>>>>
>>>>I have seen this problem locally on a test machine with both Kubuntu 
>>>>7.04 and Debian 4.0.
>>>>
>>>>It doesn't particularly worry me, because I've been around xfbb for 10 
>>>>years and know how to get around the problem. My concern is for 
>>>>newcomers who strike problems and give up.
>>>>
>>>>Ray vk2tv
>>>>
>>>>Jose :: EA1AY wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>move fbb.conf to...
>>>>>
>>>>>/etc/ax25
>>>>>
>>>>>73 de Jose, EA1AY at ED1ZAC.EAC.ESP.EU <mailto:EA1AY at ED1ZAC.EAC.ESP.EU>
>>>>>
>>>>>ED1ZAC BBS - DX Cluster - Network Node
>>>>>144.975 MHz 1200 bps - 430.500 MHz 9600 bps
>>>>>ED1ZAC BBS -> telnet://80.32.9.99:6300
>>>>>ED1ZAC-5 DX Cluster -> telnet://80.32.9.99:8000
>>>>>Web Cluster http://80.32.9.99/cgi-bin/spider.cgi
>>>>>ED1ZAC-8 OpenBCM BBS -> http://80.32.9.99:8080
>>>>>
>>>>>El 19/05/2008, a las 4:48, Ray Wells escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Some time back I advised of a problem with xfbb on a new installation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>When /usr/local/sbin/fbb & is run for the first time it offers to  
>>>>>>create
>>>>>>some files and asks for a Y/N answer. When a Y is given the bash shell
>>>>>>says Y is not a bash command.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Today I was setting up a new remote installation of fbb and got the  
>>>>>>same
>>>>>>result. I ran /..../fbbsrc/install_sh and a number of files were
>>>>>>created, but only after I manually moved fbb/conf to
>>>>>>/usr/local/etc/ax25/fbb.conf before running the script. When I  
>>>>>>tried to
>>>>>>forward with my bbs from this new system, as soon as I made the first
>>>>>>proposal, the remote bbs disconnected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The problem turned out to be that epurmess.ini didn't exist. It wasn't
>>>>>>created by the install script, and didn't exist in the source  
>>>>>>directories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ray vk2tv
>>>>>>
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